The Good Council

Goron40 · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: The Good Council

I had the idea myself and I've been told frfom numerous sources that an EC rival group may be encouraged to give this one-sided community a kick every now and then.

As of right now, EC rules, nobody questions it, monotonous RPing goes on. But what is the point of evil without good? A little competition from the good guys who won't join the EC and refuse to join any groups (I see a way this plan might fail) could make this place half-way interesting.

Someone told me that such a movement might be lookedd upon favorably by even the EC, so I figured I'd get everyone's opinon on it. Well... what say you?

I am not proposing that I lead such a group, nor that it be called the good council.

Shine · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject:

I haven't voted yet, I want to see what other folks' reasonings are. Group-think often brings out ideas I hadn't thought of/remembered.

I heard somewhere that there once was a "Good Council" but that it fizzled out. We might want to talk with some of its former members about what happened.

I tried several times to organize the resistance over in Gameware vs EC, but gamers tend to lone-wolf types and that never got off the ground. Many folks, even though they are not in the EC still didn't want to see themselves as "Good". "Good" isn't a popular concept among early young adults who see it as conforming to social expectations and prefer to see themselves as rebels and non-conformists.

Also, while I don't want to join the EVIL Council, I like/respect many of the gamers in it. (Actually, I like all that I know, but I don't know all of them) and I would not like having to always be on opposite "sides" to them. Some other "Very Skilled Gamers" group would be fun to be a part of, along with EC members, but that's sort of what Blackstar is anyway. Looking back at A2K, many, but not all, of the RPGs there are not played at the level that most threads are here.

Maybe the EC would allow some "Honorable Antagonists" to be a part of their group, but not declare themselves "Evil", since really the EC folks are more fun trouble, than evil hackers and real life violence promoters anyway. I can keep a secret just as well as they can and after I knew what was really up found the EC/MEC thing amusing and the "Fudgeman" day hilarious (although missing a full day of RP-ing was no fun. Right now, computer is my main outlet to the real world, but I should get off disability in a month or so, so a day here or there is not really a big thing after that)

If such a proposed Good Council was formed I would strongly consider joining it.

Enough of my thoughts, what do some of the reat of you think?.

Goron40 · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject:

LordPsycho · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject:

Netdroid9 · Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject:

If you're going to do this, do it at Albia2k. We pretty much own Gameware, and this board isn't much better, so you'll need to secure either Albia2k or Creature Caves before you start fighting for turf over here.

addman · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:55 am Post subject:

It's a good idea, something that the EC has actually tried to endorse for a good long time now, but the idea never actually got off the ground.

I think it was nearly a year ago now when we attempted to set up The Good Elite, getting community feedback, lists of people who would be interested, trying to set up a powerbase for the group etc. but the response was poor. Maybe because it seemed suspicious that the EC would try and start a rival group, maybe because they didn't like the amount of input we had, but it never happened.

There was also a group known as the CCFF (I think), who were set up to combat the EC in their Gameware assault, although as far as I know, this idea fell through also.

Goron, I think that due to the fact you are deeply opposed to the EC for some reason, you would actually have more luck in rallying people to your cause than we did. If you require any help or advice, I'm sure the EC would be willing to lend a hand or an ear. If you can pull it off, then good for you, but I believe it will not be an easy task.

3kul · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:02 am Post subject:

Swix · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:16 am Post subject:

It would be interesting to see a 'Good' Council, for the sake of having a rival and seeing RPers on the 'other' side pull themselves together and work as a true team.

addman · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:36 am Post subject:

Are the Creatures Caves forums open again?

Jent · Red Belt Old Friend Oblivion Knight Posts: 1049

no

Black Star is Neutral teritory to me onless some thing takes it.

Shine · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:05 am Post subject:

I am interested in such a group, but I don't want to be seen as the "rivals" to the EC. I enjoy playing with many the EC characters and don't want to be seen as their enemy. Net has already introduced "turf" issues, and sooner or later words will get said that will have feelings attached (hurt feeling most likely) and I don't want that.

I am not a lone wolf type, I like playing with friends and I don't want to be seen as anybody's enemy. It would be important that such a group be just another group, sometimes we might compete against the EC, (like in olympics or certain RPG threads,) but sometimes we might not. Lets not get cast as eternal rivals. "Good" vs "Evil"

Maybe (??) it could even be the kind of group that EC members could also be a part of? (Embri, or the "good" miror sides of some of the EC folks' characters, or just some "not evil" characters run by EC folks for example)

It sounds like some of the EC members are looking for "opponents", but we would not have to conform to their agenda in forming whatever kind of group some of us might want.

Ruster · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:15 am Post subject:

Since everyone is being so intellectual about this I thought I'd add my idiotic input and say:

Dooooooooooooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

I think it's a fantasic idea Goron, and thank you for bringing it up.
I really hope it gets off the ground because it would provide a brilliant antithisis to the nature of the EC and create the basis for many a great RP.

However I do not appreciate, or understand, your antagonism towards the EC as a group of role-players.
On the other hand, I understand your reason for for the 'monotonous' comment, and agree that an opposing organised group would spice up what would be predominantly EC dominated RP's, dispite the fact that in time, this too would become monotonous. But I think we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

I agree with Shine in that many good RP'ers that have characters in the EC also have 'good' characters that they would like to exersise, but whether or not we would be acceped would be up to the organisers and whether they would trust the members with dual commitments in the long run.
In the short term however, having some of us help out establish the group may be useful until the time comes you wish the helpers to leave.And I'm sure the others will agree with me on this

Danikat · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject:

I don't understand why so many people think being enemies of the EC would be such a problem.

Look at DP and Danikat for example. We've been enemies for as long as I can remember but it hasn't prevented the real people behind the characters from being friends. Even the characters have enough respect for each other that when nessesary they've been able to put aside their diffrences and cooperate.

I think ultimately it just comes down to remembeirng that RP is fiction. Just because someone is trying to kill you doesn't mean they hate you.

Cirrial · Guest

LordPsycho · Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject:

Must...resist...urge....to point...out....Fort's.....blunder...

Will...power....fading....

Brains....exploding....ducks...quacking.....can...not...resist...but.....must..

LIKE WHEN FORT BROKE THE MULTIVERSE AND ME, DANIKAT, AND A WHOLE GAGGLE OF OTHER RP'ERS HAD TO BAND TOGETHER TO FIX IT!

Ducksauce....

Well, that incident did give us something good:

Open Door, throw Axe, Kill Dragon...so much simpler in the old days.