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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure its a sperate protocole. If you wish to know why I hate it, Well... I am affraid I cannot specify the reasons on here. You will have to PM or Email me (Prefferably email) if you wish to know.

In any case violet, Can ya help me out trying to find the data of this website? I am especially trying to find an old traffic log, but then again any log of data about this place would be appricated. I belive we may be able to find a pattern, Of which afterwards we can start a viral marketing campain or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JRChat is, indeed, a separate protocol. Numerous attempts have been made to create another JRC server or even make a JRC channel on IRC and all of them have failed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drlupinmario wrote:
Im pretty sure its a sperate protocole. If you wish to know why I hate it, Well... I am affraid I cannot specify the reasons on here. You will have to PM or Email me (Prefferably email) if you wish to know.

In any case violet, Can ya help me out trying to find the data of this website? I am especially trying to find an old traffic log, but then again any log of data about this place would be appricated. I belive we may be able to find a pattern, Of which afterwards we can start a viral marketing campain or something.


I see. Well, as for the traffic logs, only DP would have access to them. If/when he gets back from sabbatical we could gently request them.

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JRChat is, indeed, a separate protocol. Numerous attempts have been made to create another JRC server or even make a JRC channel on IRC and all of them have failed.


That's too bad. I think if ANY website put up a CC chat client it would spread like wildfire. There's not a single chat client (save JRC which is down) on Creaturetopia, Albia 2000, Creaturetopia, Creaturecaves, or any others.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to tell you that I have studied general website hacking over the last year (Dont ask) and I can tell you that there ARE ways to look at the websites traffic without getting a direct traffic log.

Im ahh... Not going to post a link to a whois page, but I can list theese...

Domain ID:D131862538-LROR
Domain Name:BLACKSTARDOJO.ORG
Created On:31-Oct-2006 04:43:31 UTC
Last Updated On:14-Oct-2008 02:31:47 UTC
Expiration Date:31-Oct-2009 04:43:31 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)

Dunno if or how this will help us, My old toolkit containing goodies to help us I lost or something... If I had that then I could probobly generate a traffic report for www.blackstardojo.org
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drlupinmario wrote:
I would like to tell you that I have studied general website hacking over the last year (Dont ask) and I can tell you that there ARE ways to look at the websites traffic without getting a direct traffic log.

Im ahh... Not going to post a link to a whois page, but I can list theese...

Domain ID:D131862538-LROR
Domain Name:BLACKSTARDOJO.ORG
Created On:31-Oct-2006 04:43:31 UTC
Last Updated On:14-Oct-2008 02:31:47 UTC
Expiration Date:31-Oct-2009 04:43:31 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)

Dunno if or how this will help us, My old toolkit containing goodies to help us I lost or something... If I had that then I could probobly generate a traffic report for www.blackstardojo.org


WHOIS is a simple service; there are hundreds of Whois's all over the Internet. Domain information is public for a reason. I've personally also studied website instrusion and short of breaking into cPanel or phpBB (if it logs it) there's not really any way to look at traffic.

If you have another way, I'd love to hear it, though. Because cracking is both immoral and illegal, not to mention extremely disrespectful to DP, we're going to have to wait until we have his consent.

Edit: Sorry, that was kind of sloppily written. I didn't mean get DP's consent to crack the server, I meant get his consent to look at the traffic logs.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have legitimate access to the back-end of Blackstar, but I don't know enough about general web servers to know what to look for. Nor would I want to redistribute the traffic information without DP's explicit permission.

DLM, you've just openly stated an intent to illegally crack Blackstar as if it's a perfectly fine thing to do. I'm just curious. Do you act like this because you want to see how many lines you can cross before someone says "stop"? This is me saying stop.

You've been on thin ice since you first came back. Keep acting as if the world is yours to break and bend and I'm sure you'll get yourself a more lasting ban. DP may have let you off one time, but I doubt he'd let you off a second time.

This is strike two, DLM.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hacking/Cracking this place would not only be stupid, rude AND disrespectfull, but I would probobly be sent to court as DP has my IP adress. Now, More status info about this site...

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.blackstardojo.org says this about the site (Updated Today, 2-19-09...)

Net Worth : $1109.6 (Whoah)
Daily Pageview : 172 (I remember looking at this "15 days ago" and it told me then that the pageview was 68 or something.)
Daily Ads Revenue : $1.52 (Wtf? I thought this website had no ads!)

I dunno if this tells us anything, buuttt...

In any case, I totally agree with violet that we should sometime get together in a group and advertise on gaiaonline. I am currently looking for information that would help suit our needs, because in order for this to be effective, we would need decent-looking avatars.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cirrial wrote:
I already have legitimate access to the back-end of Blackstar, but I don't know enough about general web servers to know what to look for. Nor would I want to redistribute the traffic information without DP's explicit permission.

DLM, you've just openly stated an intent to illegally crack Blackstar as if it's a perfectly fine thing to do. I'm just curious. Do you act like this because you want to see how many lines you can cross before someone says "stop"? This is me saying stop.

You've been on thin ice since you first came back. Keep acting as if the world is yours to break and bend and I'm sure you'll get yourself a more lasting ban. DP may have let you off one time, but I doubt he'd let you off a second time.

This is strike two, DLM.


That's understandable Cirrial, Blackstar is DP's baby and while we might be interested in helping it, we have to respect his wishes.

I (we?) would never ask you to do anything that's not 100% in the job description (so to speak.)

doctorlupinmario wrote:

Net Worth : $1109.6 (Whoah)
Daily Pageview : 172 (I remember looking at this "15 days ago" and it told me then that the pageview was 68 or something.)
Daily Ads Revenue : $1.52 (Wtf? I thought this website had no ads!)


The ad amount is projected income. Still, anything other than a simple traffic graph would be useless. All we're interested in is finding out if the traffic dropped off sharply or whether it's been lowering in a trend like the rest of the CC.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, while I'm thinking about it, we're in a terrible condition for new members. The information we have to allow people to get acquainted with the board is massively out of date. We don't even have the Psychotopia City board for RP masters any more, for one. I believe that was repurposed into Dojopolis. There's explanations of who the Flock are but not who the newer groups are, details for a Job Board that doesn't seem to exist, and general inconsistencies all around.

It confuses me trying to figure it out, and I've been here (sporadically) since aught-six, so what would the poor newcomers make of it all?

Someone should probably update the information. I don't have the time to sit down and write out a massive rewrite of every topic in Blackstar Dojo Information, but I might do after I've finished some of my more pressing assignments. If anyone wants to volunteer to write better information, I can soon post it in the Information board.

That is, if we're not intending to ditch the Blackstar Dojo Information board and migrate all relevant info to the wiki, which I believe may have been the initial plan.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, we don't have Psychotopia anymore?

How am I still a mod?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cirrial wrote:
Also, while I'm thinking about it, we're in a terrible condition for new members. The information we have to allow people to get acquainted with the board is massively out of date. We don't even have the Psychotopia City board for RP masters any more, for one. I believe that was repurposed into Dojopolis. There's explanations of who the Flock are but not who the newer groups are, details for a Job Board that doesn't seem to exist, and general inconsistencies all around.

It confuses me trying to figure it out, and I've been here (sporadically) since aught-six, so what would the poor newcomers make of it all?

Someone should probably update the information. I don't have the time to sit down and write out a massive rewrite of every topic in Blackstar Dojo Information, but I might do after I've finished some of my more pressing assignments. If anyone wants to volunteer to write better information, I can soon post it in the Information board.

That is, if we're not intending to ditch the Blackstar Dojo Information board and migrate all relevant info to the wiki, which I believe may have been the initial plan.


I have time. I'll start later today. Even the Job Board confused me...I couldn't figure out what stage of incompletion it was at. Time to brush up on my writing skills.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaon wrote:
Wait, we don't have Psychotopia anymore?

How am I still a mod?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I do have an idea to promote the CC, and that is to get the creatures series on www.gog.com .

Good old games is a new site that allows you to purchase and download old and new classics for cheap. If we can get Gameware to put their stuff up there, then not only could we get new members REALLY easily and quickly, but we would add money to gamewares coffers.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems like a pretty good idea DLM (and a pretty nifty website too), I'm trying to speak with Gameware about the shop, mall breeds, forums and such at the moment, so if I do get through to somebody I'll see if I can pass that idea along.

At the moment I've reached somebody who has told me that they'd pass my e-mail along to a colleague who should be able to help answer my questions (the webmaster didn't respond to my e-mail at all, so I tried the only other e-mail address listed on the site, for somebody from Gameware Media), and that was on Friday, so hopefully I'll hear back from them sometime this week.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nifty website? Thanks to this place, I was able to get the Expansion for Descent 3, as well as a digital copy of the game itself. Wow this game brings me back...

The question for gameware if they do decide to host some things off of here is how they choose to package the offical C3 addons. Most likely, they would include all the "Free" ones and put links somewhere to buy the mall breeds.

But I personally would be more intrestead in getting a legal copy of creatures 1 and 2 from there
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