New Store system.

[LordPsycho]

Ok, while working on the some Guardian mods, I decided to use another store system, from Zarath ( www.zarath.com ). And I am impressed. So much so that I also paid for (from blackstar funds) the accompanying Character/Equipment mod.

But before we run headlong into what I'm proposing, I feel I must discuss this, publically.
Me and Embri would like to get rid of the services and store mod we use now, and switch to this system. This would mean giving up any items you currently own, and depending on what Al says, the services mod altogether.

I feel that once me and Goron finish setting up the Guardian's store system, the Guardians will be able to tell you how much better this system is over what we currently have, but until then you'd have to trust me.

[Embri]

I'd like to note that in all likelyhood I would be re-creating all of the existing items on Blackstar within the new system, so you would get (most, if not all of) your stuff back.

Some of the advantages of the proposed new store system:

Allows tracking of total earned money, how much your store inventory is worth, how many items you have in your store, and how many items you have sold.

You can give away items to other people.
You and trade items with other people.

There are several new types of stores which could appear, including a tavern, gift wrapping, special effects and most tantalizingly....

A synthesis store.

A whole new way of creating items....

At present, you have to wait in me to deliver new stock. With a synthesis store, Dojodians could acquire various resources which replenish themselves at a set rate of days. With the right raw materials, you can create your own items. For example....

Glass bottle + Pegasus Feather + Bubblewort = Potion of Flying

This is simply an example, but gives an idea of how it would work.

Also, I would like to note that since the "GIVE ITEM" feature allows an accompanying note, it's the same as our Service system, except the Service item (scroll or whatever) is handed back to the owner of the service.

[drlupinmario]

Aw craps

As if the whole buying items thing here wasnt messed up enough...


... Let me tell you this: If you BUY one thing from that site and put it on here, You will put me in a state Most people know as "Flaming Zombie" . I will spend all day, Sending flames to admins via email and generally spamming on the message board, Even if it means I am risking getting banned doing so.

DO NOT BUY ONE OF THOOSE RPG MODS! INFACT, TOSS OUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF IMPLEMENTING THOOSE THINGS ON THE SITE!

[Jent]

DLM, clam down now. If look at the lottery, it's a Zarath. Several other of the products at Black Star (I think) are Zarath products. Why hasn't this bugged you before, until now?

[LordPsycho]

DLM, are you trying to get banned and Blocked?

There are reasonable ways to show your dissapproval, and their are stupid ways. I'll let you figure out what that responce would be.

However, if you were to simply state what you don't like about that system,and why you think we shouldn't go to it, we'll be much more open to listening, because that is the point of this thread.

[Netdroid9]

You don't run Blackstar, DLM. You can ask that we don't implement them, and depending on your reason we may take your reasoning into consideration. Considering your lack of a reason, and the fact you threatened the administration staff, I doubt you're going to have much say as to whether this system is implemented or not.

The idea of buying items helps to stop powerplaying by reminding users that they have to request usage of an item before they can actually use it. It also helps encourage users to allow other roleplayers to use their ideas, preventing monopolies on ideas restrained by powerplaying rules.

In addition to the aforementioned functions, the system allows users to buy services from other users, allowing them access to things they may never have otherwise been able to access due to locational, monetary or other such incapacities.

For example, I could buy a picture of my character off one of many different members of Blackstar, yet I doubt I could buy anything of that sort from someone who wasn't a member of Blackstar. I also doubt I could get away with using any of HollowEye's charms unless I bought them from his store.

I doubt, however, we would bother implementing an RPG mod. It would be frivolous and no doubt use up far to much bandwidth, not to mention the fact that Blackstar itself is an RPG of sorts.

EDIT: Damn, DP beat me to it .

[Embri]

Let me assure you that there are no plans to turn Blackstar into another cookie cutter RPG forum.

In fact, we are working on a very special, very Dojodian item use MOD.
(It's in the planning stages. I don't want to ruin all the surprise, but the general principle will be you would be able to actually use all those items you've been acquiring, and a script would determine the result, based on the item's properties. And no, there will be no "X points of damage". Just yes, it worked, or no it didn't. After that, you have to RP.)

Well, AL and DP are working on it. I just get to suggest annoyingly complicated features. Regardless, that is not what is under discussion here. We would like to implement the STORES mod for Blackstar.

That is the only topic under debate. Trust me, if any other major modification were to ever be suggested, it too would be proposed to the board for your opinions.

[Goron40]

*Pops two shells into a shotgun and slings it on his back along with a fire extinguisher.*

"Got problems with Flaming Zombies? Who ya gonna call?!"

[drlupinmario]

Yes yes I am well aware that MY opinion is not wanted, Nor cared for.

...

Fine, Implement that new Item system. Just do NOT insert one of the mods that "Extends RPG useage" and "Makes Powerplaying impossible". Since my views are uncared for on this site, I can only hope that embri's statement holds true

*Drinks a barrel of gassoline then sets a nuclear bomb on him*

[Goron40]

That's not good for you, you know...

[Fort]

Myeh. Sounds interesting, I don't use the stores much, if at all, but this new system sounds interesting, and it would be a shame not to implement it since you seem to have already paid for it.

[Embri]

There seems to be some misunderstanding.

The proposed Store MOD's are free.

The Character/Equipment MOD was purchased, for the Guardians subforum.

There aren't any plans to implement that MOD here, as of yet.

DLM: Will you please stop being such a prima donna? Really. You're terribly theatrical, but sadly unfunny.

We do listen to everyone's opinions, and that includes yours. However, you have a much better chance of getting noticed in a productive manner if you phrase your opinions in a reasonable way.


For example, this will get you ignored:

OMG! Y R SUSH LZRRRS!!!111 Crappy IDEA for NOOBS~! Admins SUKkK HAZORSS>> (etc.)

Or

I will throw a tantrum if you do this! THIS IS A BAD IDEA!! I HATE YOU ALL. I WILL GO AND DIE IF YOU DO THIS!!!! (Insert more ranting here.)

This, on the other hand, WILL get people's attention:

I do not think X is a good idea. I have RP'ed on some boards using X, and these are the problems I found occurred: A, B, C. (Put in supporting evidence).

So. Please address the Store, and not any other Mods, and please say why you think it would be a good idea or not.

~Embri~

[drlupinmario]

Embri, You fail at |_337. This is how its done... Well... Almost. Just throw in some profaine words

O/\/\fG wtF?!11 OMGWTFHAX!USUKLOL! !!!111 S[CENZORD!] 1d3@ 4 N|_|BS~! @HAZORSS LOL AIMBOTZ LOL KIK B@N LOL

Okay, Now for real

Indeed, I have NOT been to any other fourms that use it (I think) But for the store mod, I am terribly affraid of... well...

BUYMEBUYMEBUYME! *Anouther vendor comes up* NO! BUYMEBUYMEBUYME! *The first vendor comes back up HEY, BUY ME AND GET A COOKIE! *The seccond one comes back up* HEY! BUY ME AND GET 10000 COOKIES! .... Simply put, One thing I do not want is for the shops to go insanely crazy and make cheap clones that claim to be better then the origanal product, Meaning you have to pay more for a item that is 100% more crap or something.

Seccondly, With the fact that the new store system has more options, It woudl make it easyer for one person (Say 3ku- I mean uh... De-Erm... Drlupinmario? Bah, Like this would happen to me) to totally dominate the market, and coupled with the fact that many of the longtime members have a lot of that they never use, and... Hang on... Forget everything I have just said...

Okay, Now for the Character\Equipment mod.... From how I see it, Dont implement it here. It will deeply lower the fun and creativityness of making a new character.

Let me direct this at embri. Now lets pretend that you just joined blackstar or something (This is purely hypothetical). You spent days planning out your ideas for your horse. Now, As you post your info for it, A message pops up saying "Thou should choose ye class. Ye filthy Peasent, Ye knight who slayith thou dragon, Or thou dragon who getith slayith...."

Okay, That was a joke, but... Meh.

In other news...

*Drlupinmario glugs anouther barrel of gasoline, Then switches to something else: Nitroglycerian (However you spell it)*

[Shaon]

Here comes

SHAON CRITICIZES A HOPELESS MORON!

[Netdroid9]

Calm down, Shaon, you'll lose your moderator-ship if you keep dropping your guard like that.

DLM: Rape's not funny, Tripod's not a good image host, item cloning isn't a problem because we're usually mature enough not to try and rip off each other, you don't have to use any of the modifications we put in place and drinking gasoline with literally strip away your throat lining, which hurts like hell.

You do, however, make a good point on the Character/Equipment mod and I encourage you to try and present your views in the same way next time you object to a suggestion.