Floating Members

[GBE]

I'm here to discuss with other sensei's as to what we should do to encourage SFOT, Trot and Drlupinmario to seek training. Given the score and comments I posted in the Insanity Challenge in The Challenge Arena, SFOT is interested in gaining training but has done nothing about seeking it.

Those who are up for the challenge should step forth. I'll gladly help train one of them. Which one I do not mind. None of them fit the Chameleon Style, but that does not mean I can't help train them.

Lets discuss:

SFOT:

has several characters who seem to rely on their powers, so they'd fit in the Tiger Style. SFOT has serious grammatical and spelling errors, and doesn't seem to be able to compose a coherent paragraph. Has a lot of difficulty in describing actions in detail. I don't expect 3kullish constructions of grand designs, but even a paragraph would be nice.


Trot:

What can I say about Trot's style without being too harsh. Again, has a few characters, some of which are just conjured for every roleplay possible out of nowhere. However, his style remains the same throughout all of his characters. Some characters fall into the Toger Style and The Mantis style. Similar grammatical and spelling errors as SFOT.

Drlupinmario:

Got a shotgun? A handgun? Axe? Baseball bat? Hell, a toothpick? No. Damn!
Right, overly defensive and aggressive simultaneously. Has almost no roleplay skill that I can determine from what I've read. Doesn't like to be outdone in any way shape or form when it does come to roleplaying. Has a few characters that fall into Mantis Style I should think. Not many spelling errors, but is somewhat grammatically annoying.
I hardly even see a sentance from this guy. So, I think that would be an achievement to say the least in his case. We can't do anything about the way he is, but we can do something about the way he roleplays.


Any additions to these comments, and any suggestions and volunteers. And feel free to highlight other members in need of training, advice or the suchlike. If anyone makes any requests as to who could train them, post here as well if you can't take them on.

GBE

[Embri]

I agree with everything GBE's said, above. Three of our most "lost" members.

SFOT concerns me the most. Not her RPing, but some of the things she's posted or alluded to...

Her wiki page on Blackstar, for example.

[3kul]

Hm, I've got a couple of weeks before I go on holidays, I'll give teaching TROT a shot, since I don't mind him too much. Anytime I've ever had something to ask about his characters he's been pretty helpful (admittedly with a lot of guidance on my behalf ), and he does have some pretty good ideas, he just seems to have trouble expressing himself.

I'll be trying something that'll get him a bit more motivated into improving himself, though if for some insane reason he decides to turn me down I'll just pass on the offer to one of the others (though I'm quite sure that SFOT does not like me very much, particularily after all of the plots I've partaken in that she saw as personal attacks against her ).

Any rich people care to make a stupidly large wager that I can't turn Trot into a decent RPer within the next two weeks?

[Embri]

*plunks down a few million * Easy money, 3kul.

[GBE]

You know, I am not particularly suprised that only you two have posted here out of all the Style Sensei's. I guess the others are a little afraid of a challenge..

You know what, I'll take on SFOT. *Checks himself into a mental institution never to be seen again...*

That leaves one volunteer of any style to take on and patiently train Drlupinmario if he is still interested in roleplaying. If not, then, oh well... Come on, or I'll do a lucky dip minus myself, 3kul and Embri..

[3kul]

[GBE]

Right, I've pmed SFOT, and offered my services to help train her. In case I wasn't suitable to her needs, I also offered to help get who ever it is she would deem more suitable. That is if she wants any training at all.

So, fingers crossed that we might have improvements in the near future. And 3kul, you've got the easiest of the three to train, considering a roleplay I privately scored between Trot and one other. I must admit, Trot is a somewhat coherent roleplayer. And has in fact improved more than I had originally realised.

I would say Trot needs more help in grammar and spelling. But a little help in developing interesting and new attacks for his characters might be useful, as well as helping him develop some histories, since he appears to want to try and establish some, but seems to have difficulty expressing himself, much like Embri said.

I hope I've helped you out, rather than hinder you

And by the way, I said a lucky dip minus you, Embri and myself

[Netdroid9]

Just don't be too hard on them, TROT strikes me as the kind of person who'd make a big fuss and end up being worse than ever should 3kul upset him too much, and if SFOT was being serious about the whole suicide thing we definitely don't want to make her do anything stupid. Then again, causing another Columbine would be great for the EC's publicity... Note to self: Research mind-control video games .

EDIT: Damnit Embri, you've doomed us all! You've exiled the great bleeding-mouth-of-doom, and soon it will return and bring death to us all! DEATH. TO. US. ALL!!!!! -Damnit!

[3kul]

[addman]

Here's my few cls on what the three in question could do with improving on and my opinion on them as RPers:

SFOT

I don't think SFOT is a bad RPer, just a few spelling issues but hey, it happens to the best of us...doesn't it 3kul?

Over at A2K I had a very entertaining RP where basically Swix and SFOT were both trying to kill me. Since then I've noticed she's pretty imaginative and is much better than some people. She does make the odd powerplayish post, but those are usually restricted to threads that aren't RPs.

TROT

As for TROT, at first I couldn't stand his RPing, especially during the Birth Of The Guardians RP (horribly confusing posts, no explanation, annoying characters), and to be honest, it's only in the last few days I've paid him any heed. He's actually come up with an unusual plot twist in the Tremors thread which has both End and Holloweyes thinking that Addman is dead! I thought that there was some hope for him afterall once the plot began to thicken a little, but I wish he would elaborate on how or why things have happened. For example, if you try to hit him he just says "The attack missed" or "It didn't effect me", whereas he could say "TROT dived away just outside the blast zone, missing the bulk of the explosion but still getting a face full of gravel in the process". It'd be much more satisfying to RP with him.

DLM

I think the Council knows my feelings on him already, but I won't bring that up here anyway. Personally, I feel that DLM could improve in most ways. He's not very descriptive, he's the kind of RPer who doesn't want to be outdone, not so many frequent spelling mistakes but could really do with learning how to RP with others better. He seems better on the powerplay front than when he started, but could certainly do with a spot of training.

Zerrer

I know no one's mentioned him yet, but he could really do with some lessons and a little integration. The spelling isn't abysmal and he leads a group known as the Felbeasts, so what could be wrong with him? What bothers me is really the same as what TROT needs to improve, the overall RP quality.

A couple of examples might help me explain. He took part in The Wall along with myself, Fort, Panther, and Goron, and acted really weird, changing sides back and forth, then claiming that no other characters could see him just before interacting with them. He also began to help seal us all in The Wall ((After we'd stepped out of it a couple of posts earlier)), then demanded we kept a live progress of how complete The Wall was "it's now 86% complete".

He also asked me to write him a story, which in the end he was pleased with, but he refused to give me any information. He basically asked for a story about him being the heir to some treasure and to throw in a dragon to kill, so I asked him for more information and scoured his profile. His profile contained no history, so when I pointed this out he told me that he'd already given all the information I needed. I wrote the story blind and made up a load of gobble-dee-gook about his family, bloodlines, names etc. and he lapped it up.

These examples show to me that he's trying to play a complex character that he has no idea what to do with, and as such, is confusing not only himself, but other RPers. If someone can work with him on his character profile I think that'd improve his quality of posts dramatically.

[GBE]

We only have so many Sensei's for training. If our Sensei's cannot train these people, which I almost kind of thought they were here for as well as monitoring their students progress, then what are they for..?

I know Embri is busy as an admin and as a teacher/student. Who knows what. And I know 3kul has just taken on Trot, and he's going away soon as well.

I've taken on SFOT, who was more than willing to take on training after I pmed her. I was quite suprised too actually, but there you go. I have no clue as to which character that she's going to use, although she keeps refering to someone called Lexi and saying they're not really related to Fort. Any ideas there that might clear this up at all..?

Which leaves then, DLM and Zerrer. I would hope that two other sensei's could take them on to train them if they could. As I will literally have my hands full even getting online next week and the week after due to conflicting interests. It'll be a miracle if I keep up with anything, so I may use that time to purely help SFOT.

I would normally say, I might take on a second, but certainly not until after the new year. And as far as peoples concern go, if you are concerned about someone's roleplay ability, then rather than griping about it anywhere, perhaps you should go and do something about it instead, or find someone who's willing too..?

((And I agree, the old bloody red smiley of DOOM was much more preferable..))

GBE

[Embri]

Ahem. *point to View more Emoticons*