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Help DP?
Yes, maybe he will grant us immortal powers! Or cookies!
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Yes, but I don't want to work this much. Less resposibility!
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No, what has DP ever done for me?!
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I think DP needs more work.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: It is becoming apparent to me... Reply with quote

... that Blackstar is getting too large for one person, immortal or otherwise, to handle. Stop me if I'm wrong but I'd say DP needs help.

Perhaps modship should come with greater responsibilities. Right now our moderators have minimal tasks, such as... well umm... you get the idea. Being a moderator should be a full time job. If DP didn't have to go through every forum or every post, he would have more time to do the whole admin thing.

Perhaps moderators could provide a daily summary of the board they moderate including new topics, continuing old topics, problems, and things that DP should look at. That way DP would have a general summary of the entire site and a much shorter list of topics to visit.


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The Wilds


New Topics:

Addman's Cookiefest: A newly created RP by addman in which players must create, bake, and eat cookies. It has 3 posts so far, most notably Goron has baked Embri into a pocky cookie.

New Posts:

Corporate Development 2: The Pheonix Corporation has set foot on the moon, and an angry hoarde of Grendels (TROT) has begun to devour the city.

Problems:

The Birth of the Guardians: Goron has commited a powerplay by destroying the Rapture with a toothpick in a single post with no response from any EC member.

Requiring your attention:

Spambots: A large amount of spambots have begun to attack the forum. I need help!


If you feel that this is not something up to the moderators, I may take this and sell it as a service (patent pending).

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a good idea to me, but some of us will have less to do than others. For example, my report compared with say, UncleAsriel's report would drastically differ in workloads, as the only new posts in the Archives are my own, whilst he'd have to deal with nearly every RP in the Dojo.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's just it. Like you say some will be drastically different from others. I suppose having two moderators wouldn't be so bad if it's a really big board hmm?

Otherwise, be glad that you don't have much to do... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, hem hem, no one posts in my board. Ever.

This should be amended slightly.

What about people that lead groups (hem hem Goron Father Mac Fort Me Danikat)? Should they do anything?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that moderators already did read every post in their sections. At least thats what I do.
I don't comment on it often, because I see no need to, but I do read everything posted there.

And I don't really see what the reports would achieve. Its already within a moderators authority to deal with power-playing and other rule-breaking issues in their areas and if something like a spam bot comes up we can just tell another admin, Embri for example since she's here most often.

If all the moderators just reported problems to DP then sat back and waited for him to fix it instead of using their authority to solve the problem it'd be making the problem worse, not better.

Edit: Although I do agree that having two mods for the bussiest threads would make life easier for them.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of think Goron's onto something, although I agree with Danikat's note on the fact that just sending DP a load of messages is probaby just a tad bit lazy...

I think if anything, only major issues should be pmed to DP, whilst anything else could and should be discussed amongst the moderators...

I also agree that at least two mods per busy boards should be appointed... That way, one mod won't be over encumbered with everything.... I'm online almost every day, with me not coming on the occasional day or two sometimes... So I'd be happy to offer my services where they'd be required...

I was actually thinking that since Al is leaving, and DP is pretty much the only coder here now for Blackstar, with Embri in second chair so to speak with general forum running, I thought DP would need an additional admin, or at least have more responsibility shared amongst the moderators...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we actually need the Sensei's input before we go off creating the system for him Smile. He may be happy with the way things are run currently, and daily reports would only compound problems as he'd have to wade through them all everyday. Give the guy some time off! I mean, we don't even know if he feels swamped with his workload or not.

I thought this is the exact reason he appointed Embri to help with his adminly duties, and so far, she's helped to create store items and medals for other people. I really don't see how any of this will help. If the workload is too much, I assume he'll just appoint another admin to help out, simple delegation as and when it is needed.

Personally, I don't have time to read every single post in the games room, I just try and keep up to date in the most recent threads, and so far I have encountered no problems. I see no need to bother DP with messages telling him how well the Word Association thread is going and who has posted as he most likely has better things to be doing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, I'd help. I'm on pretty much everyday (Excluding Sundays... Oy.), so I can help. And since I do school on the computer, it's pretty easy to sneak on and shrug off work for about an hour. *grins evilly*
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Addman, just let them go on...I"m interested in what they'll send me for approval Wink.

I make no secret that Uni is my first priority. And well, that means lots of homework, books, study dates, late nights in computer labs, and more programs due than most people can understand. But I find time for the day to day with blackstar, and the community is so mature that I find that even the mods don't have to spend much time breaking up fights (I brag that the least used feature of my boards is the report post feature).

Now when I say I don't have time to do what I want with Blackstar, I mean code wise. I need to remove Prillian, fix the bugs in the stores, and install a file attachment mod for the archives (your welcome Luke). These are mods I really want to see happen (or unhappen in one case), but as I said, Uni takes a front seat.

So If you guys as the mods feel you need to do more, go ahead. But as far as I see, there are clear horizons ahead.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant just as helping him. We're not bombarding his PM box with spam. As you can see, DP's activities mostly concern the coding on the site. However as he still is an admin, I suppose he feels obliged to know what's happening on the site in the forum.

We could help accomplish such a thing through such reports, giving DP more time to... LOOK OUT!

*Ducks as a dead Prillian window soars by.*

You get the idea...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, maybe it's me, but shouldn't we ask DP what he'd like us to do?

Well Sensei? Do you want reports? Summary posts Behind Closed Doors?

A daily e-mail? A weekly summary?

I don't have a clue what would be useful to you, so I'd like to ask.

Personally I think the degeneration in the Wilds is a far more serious and pressing matter. The shameful etiquette has to be addressed, in some way or another.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to be a guy who shuns belling the cat, but.....

How about Violet? He's a Hacker extraordinaire, supplies us with theis lovely webspace, and could save our sorry rear ends of many different technical woes.

I wouldn't mind having another few mods backing me up in the Wilds. I recall TreeSpirte had several mods per forum when it came to hot topics like RPing and the like. Maybe we could do so here, or at least spread it all out a bit more (Sharing is fun! Yay!)

Just my 2 cents.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick me! Pick me!

The Guardians board isn't overwhelming me, I could help.

As for Violet, I haven't seen him around here recently... But better yet, why not just use AL? I think DP would have considered these already...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSensei wrote:
and install a file attachment mod for the archives (your welcome Luke).


Thanks DP, such a feature would be most appreciated Very Happy.

I'd offer to help you out with modly duties Asriel, but if I get spare time I think I'd be better off putting it into the part of the forums I'm supposed to be looking after now before taking on another job. Razz

Just to point something out though, Vromoth, mod of the Arctic Unexplored, hasn't been seen for quite some time... Gah! Upon checking just now it seems he last posted back in May Shocked. Maybe replacing him would be a good idea, given that the new system for RPers that's just been implemented has the Arctic Unexplored as one of the RP Guild's areas.

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