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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: |
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As much as I hate censorship, I have to agree with DP on this. It's his forum, he can do what he likes and we have to either respect it or get out. _________________ [quote="Sephirothsicase"]Bah, Give me 2 days and a load of napalm...[/quote]
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| It doesn't make sense to say "that's not fair", as I bet it would be treated in exactly the same manner should the need arise. Just because it's not banned at this moment in time doesn't mean The Sensei tolerates it, where in his post did he say that he wants to insult homosexuals? |
I never said that DP would insult homosexuals, but I was referring to how he answered my question as being an unfair way to treat the issue:
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| If someone used the word 'gay' in a derogatory or offensive manner, would you ban that word too? |
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| No, but it's personal with that word we are discussing here right now. |
To treat an issue differently or special over another issue (even if the other issue is a hypothetical) simply because it applies to you seems unfair to me.
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| Also, 3kul, why are you so adamant on keeping this word? Do you even intend to use it? |
I don't think it's all that important whether or not I intend to use it, just that now if I or anyone else wants to use it, we won't be able to. I can't say that I will use it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I won't. If someone wanted to say something like "the brain damage has retarded my cousin's language development", they will now get "the brain damage has smegheaded my cousin's language development". "This drug will retard your heart rate" becomes "this drug will smeghead your heart rate". Yeah, it's pretty unlikely that anyone will ever say a sentance like that (well, it could happen in the Lab section of the forums), but again, you can't say that it won't.
The other reason as to why I'm so adamant about this is that there doesn't seem to be a line drawn here. It now seems like it's basically 'if someone finds it offensive, it gets banned'. The word 'chav' can be considered offensive to some people, and the word 'frog' can be used offensively to refer to the French, will either of those be banned? '*happy spices*' is not the kindest of words, and neither is 'moron', should we be allowed to use those?
Perhaps it might seem like I'm overreacting, and I guess I don't really have much ground to stand on here, so all I can do now is back down. Do what you think is right DP, I won't (and couldn't if I wanted to) oppose you. I do have to ask though, simply because it's come up:
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| Second is respect the decisions of the Admins. They have a hard enough time without you whining about every decision. |
What if I find the decision disrespectful to myself, and other members? Doesn't that kind of clash with Rule #1? The reason I initially spoke up was because it was a word being banned for one instance only, and I am certain that most members here have the common decency not to use the word "retard" in a derogatory manner (a few days ago, I would've said every member here). Yet now, we can never use it, because of the actions of a single individual. Although I know that this is not the case, I still can't help but feel it's like we can't be trusted to use a word properly. Are my only choices really only to put up with it or leave? Don't worry about answering that (as I already know the answer anyway), clearly I've kicked up enough of a fuss, I just thought I'd put it out there as a random thought occurance, and because not mentioning it would bug me enough to want to continue posting in this thread. _________________ If I'm not here, I'm probably over at...
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like censorship much either. Nothing interesting on TV till late. It sucks >.>
I know I would be offended if the word 'gay' was used in offence, but I don't think either of the words should be placed on the censor. _________________ ...And that's how it ended. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think you've got a lost case here, 3kul, and continuing to argue might not be the best of ideas. I understand and pretty much agree with you, but as noted before we have to respect his decision no matter what we think of it. _________________ [quote="Sephirothsicase"]Bah, Give me 2 days and a load of napalm...[/quote]
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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That's why I said this in my previous post Net :
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| I guess I don't really have much ground to stand on here, so all I can do now is back down. Do what you think is right DP, I won't (and couldn't if I wanted to) oppose you. |
It is nice to know that there are people who can see where I'm coming from though. _________________ If I'm not here, I'm probably over at...
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I did not mean to start a general censorship debate. My personal feelings about the word in question were only a part of my issue. If I had seen the phrase once in a post I most likely would have let it slide. But I was concerned if the phrase was about to be regualrly and widely spread about the site as a filter replacement phrase. That I was concerned about and wanted to stop. I see 3kul's point about the other uses of the word, I wasn't asking for a ban on the it.
But, It's DP's site, he can deal with it as he deems best. _________________ Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: |
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When I get in to college I should take a psychology course. I've always been fascinated on how such an insignificant complaint (no offense intended) can escalate to a large controversy almost instantanously. What I envision happening is that the disapproval is stated, a few people take note and give their ten cents, and, after considering the opinions put forth by other members, the Almighty Sensei makes a decision on the issue. Case closed.
But, it seems, the argumentative nature of humankind has prevailed. Thankfully, in this instance, the issue was resolved before a fullblown crisis ensued. (And yes, that is a possible outcome of something like this!) |
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Congratulations on your third post End.  _________________ ~Goron~
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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As opposed to me, my words are gold and should all be noted.  _________________ ~Goron~
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*Steals all the gold and sells it on e-bay for platinum......* I'm in da monay! Check it! *Does the funky pointy finger dance, with added funk and pointyness.....* _________________ Books are source of knowledge,knowledge source of power,power is source of corruption,corruption is crime.Reading books will get you imprisoned!
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*Addman happens to be bent over, buttocks raised in the air, examining an interesting lizard on the floor, when GBE walks past, peforming the pointy finger dance*
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Yooou! Are one sick puppet! Well, Addman, if I knew you were into that type of thing......
*Deep fries his finger for cleanliness....* _________________ Books are source of knowledge,knowledge source of power,power is source of corruption,corruption is crime.Reading books will get you imprisoned!
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"And what did you expect? He's a puppet. They always have people's hands up their... " Embri considered. "Well, whatever." She shakes her head. "Brain Bleach, anyone? I've got extra-stength!" Embri passes around the jug. _________________
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