Blackstar RP Dojo Forum Index
FAQ  *  Search  *  Memberlist  *  Usergroups  * Register  *  Profile  *  Ranks  *  Staff  *  Log in to check your private messages  *  Log in 
Cash exchange  *  First Bank of Blackstar Dojo  *  Shops  *  Auctions  *  Your Items  *  All Items  *  Lottery  *  Bookmakers
Medals  *  On Blackstar Now  *  Blackstar Wiki  *  Affiliates  *  CC Chat


Offended by a Phrase
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Blackstar RP Dojo Forum Index -> Bulletin Board
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Netdroid9
Black Monkey (Mod)

Old Friend

Evil Council Member

Gameware Member

Blackstar Native




Posts: 1256


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I hate censorship, I have to agree with DP on this. It's his forum, he can do what he likes and we have to either respect it or get out.
_________________
[quote="Sephirothsicase"]Bah, Give me 2 days and a load of napalm...[/quote]

List of Gods

Earth is our primary target. Control Earth, and you control the world.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
3kul
Black Mantis (Mod)

Green Spider (Mod)

Evil Council Member

Blackstar Native

Old Friend




Posts: 2955


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

addman wrote:
It doesn't make sense to say "that's not fair", as I bet it would be treated in exactly the same manner should the need arise. Just because it's not banned at this moment in time doesn't mean The Sensei tolerates it, where in his post did he say that he wants to insult homosexuals?


I never said that DP would insult homosexuals, but I was referring to how he answered my question as being an unfair way to treat the issue:

3kul wrote:
If someone used the word 'gay' in a derogatory or offensive manner, would you ban that word too?


TheSensei wrote:
No, but it's personal with that word we are discussing here right now.


To treat an issue differently or special over another issue (even if the other issue is a hypothetical) simply because it applies to you seems unfair to me.

addman wrote:
Also, 3kul, why are you so adamant on keeping this word? Do you even intend to use it?


I don't think it's all that important whether or not I intend to use it, just that now if I or anyone else wants to use it, we won't be able to. I can't say that I will use it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I won't. If someone wanted to say something like "the brain damage has retarded my cousin's language development", they will now get "the brain damage has smegheaded my cousin's language development". "This drug will retard your heart rate" becomes "this drug will smeghead your heart rate". Yeah, it's pretty unlikely that anyone will ever say a sentance like that (well, it could happen in the Lab section of the forums), but again, you can't say that it won't.

The other reason as to why I'm so adamant about this is that there doesn't seem to be a line drawn here. It now seems like it's basically 'if someone finds it offensive, it gets banned'. The word 'chav' can be considered offensive to some people, and the word 'frog' can be used offensively to refer to the French, will either of those be banned? '*happy spices*' is not the kindest of words, and neither is 'moron', should we be allowed to use those?

Perhaps it might seem like I'm overreacting, and I guess I don't really have much ground to stand on here, so all I can do now is back down. Do what you think is right DP, I won't (and couldn't if I wanted to) oppose you. I do have to ask though, simply because it's come up:

Quote:
Second is respect the decisions of the Admins. They have a hard enough time without you whining about every decision.


What if I find the decision disrespectful to myself, and other members? Doesn't that kind of clash with Rule #1? The reason I initially spoke up was because it was a word being banned for one instance only, and I am certain that most members here have the common decency not to use the word "retard" in a derogatory manner (a few days ago, I would've said every member here). Yet now, we can never use it, because of the actions of a single individual. Although I know that this is not the case, I still can't help but feel it's like we can't be trusted to use a word properly. Are my only choices really only to put up with it or leave? Don't worry about answering that (as I already know the answer anyway), clearly I've kicked up enough of a fuss, I just thought I'd put it out there as a random thought occurance, and because not mentioning it would bug me enough to want to continue posting in this thread.

_________________
If I'm not here, I'm probably over at...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Author Message
Miyanokouji
White Belt

Old Friend

Blackstar Native

Power Apathy Party




Posts: 262


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like censorship much either. Nothing interesting on TV till late. It sucks >.>

I know I would be offended if the word 'gay' was used in offence, but I don't think either of the words should be placed on the censor.

_________________
...And that's how it ended.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
Netdroid9
Black Monkey (Mod)

Old Friend

Evil Council Member

Gameware Member

Blackstar Native




Posts: 1256


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you've got a lost case here, 3kul, and continuing to argue might not be the best of ideas. I understand and pretty much agree with you, but as noted before we have to respect his decision no matter what we think of it.
_________________
[quote="Sephirothsicase"]Bah, Give me 2 days and a load of napalm...[/quote]

List of Gods

Earth is our primary target. Control Earth, and you control the world.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
3kul
Black Mantis (Mod)

Green Spider (Mod)

Evil Council Member

Blackstar Native

Old Friend




Posts: 2955


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I said this in my previous post Net Razz:

3kul wrote:
I guess I don't really have much ground to stand on here, so all I can do now is back down. Do what you think is right DP, I won't (and couldn't if I wanted to) oppose you.


It is nice to know that there are people who can see where I'm coming from though.

_________________
If I'm not here, I'm probably over at...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Author Message
Shine
Blue Tiger

Blue Mantis

Guardian Member

Gameware Member

A2K Member




Posts: 706


PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not mean to start a general censorship debate. My personal feelings about the word in question were only a part of my issue. If I had seen the phrase once in a post I most likely would have let it slide. But I was concerned if the phrase was about to be regualrly and widely spread about the site as a filter replacement phrase. That I was concerned about and wanted to stop. I see 3kul's point about the other uses of the word, I wasn't asking for a ban on the it.

But, It's DP's site, he can deal with it as he deems best.

_________________
Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
Shine on you crazy diamond!
And we’ll bask in the shadows of yesterday’s triumphs,
and sail on the steel breeze,
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser,
Come on you miner of truth and delusion, and
SHINE!!
-Pink Floyd
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
EnDSchultz
Black Owl (Mod)

Old Friend

Evil Council Member




Posts: 296


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I get in to college I should take a psychology course. I've always been fascinated on how such an insignificant complaint (no offense intended) can escalate to a large controversy almost instantanously. What I envision happening is that the disapproval is stated, a few people take note and give their ten cents, and, after considering the opinions put forth by other members, the Almighty Sensei makes a decision on the issue. Case closed.
But, it seems, the argumentative nature of humankind has prevailed. Thankfully, in this instance, the issue was resolved before a fullblown crisis ensued. (And yes, that is a possible outcome of something like this!)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
Author Message
Goron40
Blue Mantis

Old Friend

Guardian Member

Gameware Member




Posts: 2417


PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on your third post End. Very Happy
_________________
~Goron~

---

[align=center:aaa8839b63]The Fortress Ruins has all items on sale until synthing for the its items is applied. Get your tech while it's cheap!

The Guardians - The Protectors of Balance[/align:aaa8839b63]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Author Message
HisLordship
Black Fox (Mod)

Green Owl (Mod)

Old Friend

Master of RP

Evil Council Member




Posts: 664


PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnDSchultz is tacit for a reason - his words are gold, and best spent in moderation. When he does make a post, it is well worth noting.

The psychology of this issue is worth some investigation. I believe it originates from the openess of this community and the anonymity of the internet. I am glad to see this topic pass without any extreeme verbal harassment, and I should hope that this shall be put to rest.

_________________
If I were I as wise, as many have said
I wouldn't eat mice, I'd be in my bed.
I'm not in my bed, I'm prowling the skies
So mice be aware... I'm not all that wise.

Jack Prelutsky, OwlSong


Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

Avatar by sighthoundlady
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Author Message
Goron40
Blue Mantis

Old Friend

Guardian Member

Gameware Member




Posts: 2417


PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As opposed to me, my words are gold and should all be noted. Very Happy
_________________
~Goron~

---

[align=center:aaa8839b63]The Fortress Ruins has all items on sale until synthing for the its items is applied. Get your tech while it's cheap!

The Guardians - The Protectors of Balance[/align:aaa8839b63]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Author Message
GBE
Black Chameleon Belt (Mod)

Green Spider (Mod)

Master of RP

Evil Council Member

Guardian Member




Posts: 1481


PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Steals all the gold and sells it on e-bay for platinum......* I'm in da monay! Check it! *Does the funky pointy finger dance, with added funk and pointyness.....*
_________________
Books are source of knowledge,knowledge source of power,power is source of corruption,corruption is crime.Reading books will get you imprisoned!


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
addman
Blue Monkey

Old Friend

Evil Council Member

Gameware Member

Blackstar Native




Posts: 1399


PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Addman happens to be bent over, buttocks raised in the air, examining an interesting lizard on the floor, when GBE walks past, peforming the pointy finger dance*

Shocked

_________________
I like big cookies and I cannot lie,
You other muppets can't deny,
When a girl walks in with a biscuit tin,
And a cookie in your face you get...hungry!

I has me a blog
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
GBE
Black Chameleon Belt (Mod)

Green Spider (Mod)

Master of RP

Evil Council Member

Guardian Member




Posts: 1481


PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yooou! Are one sick puppet! Well, Addman, if I knew you were into that type of thing...... Razz

*Deep fries his finger for cleanliness....*

_________________
Books are source of knowledge,knowledge source of power,power is source of corruption,corruption is crime.Reading books will get you imprisoned!


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Author Message
Embri
Black Spider

Blackstar Native

Old Friend




Posts: 2172


PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"And what did you expect? He's a puppet. They always have people's hands up their... " Embri considered. "Well, whatever." She shakes her head. "Brain Bleach, anyone? I've got extra-stength!" Embri passes around the jug.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Author Message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Blackstar RP Dojo Forum Index -> Bulletin Board All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum





Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Design based off work by: niedermayr.cc
Graphics by Embri For Blackstar RP Dojo
All Content © 2006-2008 Blackstar RP Dojo