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The End Is Nigh......But So Is A New Beginning!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sorry 3kul if I came off that way. I really don't have anything against the EC, and I am not fueled by some sort of "team rage". :/

Just making a quick post on the go to say that it's fine Coolpikaaa, as I said in my earlier post:
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I'm sure that he didn't mean it in this way...

I don't believe you had any ill will when you okay'd the suggestion of turning the Corrupted Cave into the new Bingo Hall, and I understand that (outside of RPing) you don't hold any sort of grudge against the Council Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3kul, rest, please understand I'm not trying to take over the Caves. However, unless you can show how your new board has a unique function from everything else that is already present, THERE WILL BE NO USER BOARDS. The EC is no exception to this.

Now I understand better than most the influence that the EC has had on me when I made Blackstar. This deal with the Caves becoming the games board is the best way I can come up with to include them in Dojo2. I want to acknowledge the EC influence by having the Caves be a part of it, but if you are that oppossed...

Edit: by the way, I plan to begin the transition tomorrow morning about 10:00 PM Local time (which is CDT). That gives you 11 & 1/2 hrs from this posting to say your goodbyes to this Dojo.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldent you send out a mass email first or something to all registerd users of this place?

And is it going to include an ampitheature? Cuz I still aint done with my story with Volkov, Chitzkoi and Rasputia.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, unless you can show how your new board has a unique function from everything else that is already present, THERE WILL BE NO USER BOARDS.


Part of me is screaming a big theatrical no at this. The more rational part of my mind, however, points me to just how lacking in success the user boards on this forum have been. A unique purpose alone would give any potential user boards SOME shelf life.

Less than 12 hours? Better start racing around and grabbing stuff to throw into the new forum!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This deal with the Caves becoming the games board is the best way I can come up with to include them in Dojo2. I want to acknowledge the EC influence by having the Caves be a part of it, but if you are that oppossed...

LP, you seem to have completely missed my point here: the reason that I'm upset is not because I don't like the idea, it's because you never even considered asking the Council what we thought about you using our Cave.

It hardly matters now, as you obviously never felt the need to discuss this with us, and if you try to ask for permission now it would hardly seem sincere. So, rather than continue complaining about this, I will instead pretend that you asked us for the Council's seal of approval and put this decision to a poll over on the Council's forums. It will be a standard 14 day poll, during which we shall decide upon whether or not we would be happy to have the Corrupted Cave as the games section for New Blackstar. I will inform you of our decision either in 14 days time or when a clear majority has been established.

EDIT: Just to make two things clear without me having to post again:
(1) Yes, I do realize that if we do not want it to be a games-only place then there will be no section called the Corrupted Cave in the new Dojo, and I have made this clear to the Council in the poll that I have made.
(2) I feel that I've said all that I could possibly say on the matter, so I'd rather not post any further on it. My next post relating to this topic will just be to state our official opinion: either we will be supporting the Corrupted Cave games section (in which case nothing will really happen) or we won't (in which case we'll be requesting that the name be changed).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I am with DP over this. I mean, The EC still has its secret forum of its own, right? The point is that having many userboards does indeed confuse users until they realise that half of them are not even used.


I hope I get the last post here!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear.

I'm seeing fast growing fractures within the community here, and I don't mean to sound like a doomsayer or anything but every forum I've been on that's started acting like this has died days later.

For the record, I do think LP should have asked for permission. I also know that the EC is using LP's server space for their forum. What's my conclusion? The EC would probably be happier picking up their ball and leaving like I'm doing now as of this post. I'm leaving Blackstar before I see it fall into the absolute mess and chaos I'm forseeing it spiralling into now.

The damage has been done. For the love of whatever, DP, change your damn FTP access details before I accidentally break something with my clumsy inept attempts to "fix" things.

Bye!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*...I was hoping to do the transition today, but considering this, I'll wait a few days.

Cirr, you don't need to worry about fixing the software behind the forum. I'm working on the new code as we speak. The cash mod and all depended mods are not returning, as there is no acceptable substitute in phpbb3. The Medal mod is returning though.

3kul, I'm sorry if my lack of asking caused a rift. I don't want to offend. If it will help, May I use the corrupted cave as the games forum? I think it would be better than the Bingo Hall.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, now, everyone. Try and relax.

Thank you very much for attempting to include the EC into the New Blackstar, it's a lot more than most people would do.

However, it would have been nice to inform us with a bit more time. It's kinda' like the time my mother told me I was moving to another city, the day before it happened. It's a bit... nerve wrecking, since now we have no public forums and it would have been nice just to have some warning, so we could have started planning first.

Also, Cirrus, don't worry about Blackstar dying out. I, personally, will not let it. If I have to spend hours upon hours dragging role players and writers from their usual haunts, I shall.

Besides, how many years has the Blackstar community been together? I know, for a fact, that everyone on Blackstar have lasted longer as companions to me than the majority of real life friends.

Thank you for waiting a bit longer, DP, I greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry that we're causing you trouble.

Conflict is a good thing, really, because it can, if both parties are mature enough, lead to compromise.

Also, CP, darling, you don't want to become a cute, fluffy little plush toy, do you? I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about, sweetheart. Just remember, I have over 2000 plushes, I wouldn't mind one more. <3
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Wow, I can't believe I threw such an uncharacteristic hissy fit just now. (Yeah, the part about me leaving forever - my knee's kind of sore now from that massive jerk of a response. Don't post after leaping to paranoid conclusions like me, folks!)

I'm not posting on an iPhone on the spur of the moment without reviewing my post and reading it back in my head ever again. o_o

of course maybe these hissy fits are entirely characteristic of me but anyway

Sorry for that outburst, people. I'd like to kill that post now but I don't feel it'd be right to quietly absolve myself of that massive lapse of and error in judgement and rationality.

I panicked, I guess. I've got to stop going on about it but I have been part of communities that have been far more fragile than this one. As Raven said, this place has been around for years. The other communities I was in were lucky to last beyond a year.

DP, the main problem is I badly want to help but haven't got the right skills to. I'm hoping to at least further acquaint myself with PHPBB3 just so I can do this. There's only two admins and that includes me. I feel I should be doing more than I am, which is basically nothing, and I'm a pretty good programmer if not for the fact I basically have never used PHP. :/

Anything else I can help with as an administrator? Belts? Medals? You mentioned a medal mod. I don't mind being the medal admin again. I promise to be better this time and actually make the sprites.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I can ever influence anyone even if I tried my very hardest - plus DP probably has made this kind of decision anyway - but I think the new forums should be a back to basics. No mods of any kind. Just nice and simple - post and wait for a response.

I'm probably not the first one to admit that any new forum can be overwhelming but add some complex features and you have newcomers running for the hills. Less sections may also get me to post more but I'm afraid that I haven't been in the mood to RP for a while now (and my story writing isn't getting the attention it deserves either). This job seems to be sucking all of my energy out of me so that all I want to do when I get home is chill out and watch some films/tv shows. Even gaming has taken a backburner too!!

(Cirrial - you've just given me yet another excuse not to get an iPhone just yet Razz)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Cirral you should know that you almost compleated Bioshock. My only real complaint is that of when they generally put alignment in games, how it only really lets you choose good OR evil, Never any neutrality. Hm, maybe its saying something.


As in for advertising, I WOULD agree with you, Cirral, but we are in desperate need for new blood. Then again, with that said I dont think Gaia or the 'Chans are the best place to advertise. Gaia would be ideal if we could infiltrate one or two of its subgroups or Cliques, Plus I could grab a good gold-generating bot, but then I suppose many people here would be morally opposed to that.

The 'Chans... We honestly dont want people spamming the place to death with 4chan memes which get old the moment someone spams the living crap out of them. There may be one or two chans that are good places to advertise, but I think we are best talking this out first.

And finally, The LAST thing I want is for this forum to be taken over by the thing I hate the most. Furrys. With their sick ways and all... In all honesty I am okay if there are some on this place, especially since eventually most get bored and stop posting, But I dont wanna see a thousand "Yiffy" foxes or whatever. Or as you said Cirral, Recolors of Shadow the Headgehog.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me thinks I should have said something here when Coopikaaa started the thread, than work on a post in the Bingo Hall.
Where was I? Let me check my rough draft. *Mumble, mumble, mumble.* Gah, gibberish! *Burns draft post.* Nevermind, let me type a better version.

The Felbeast, my opinion at this time, don't seem to be easily associated with a unique function for the new Dojo. As far I can remember, we don't have a of our own forum or chat to discuss meetings and such. Unless I missed it, I'll have to check with another Felbeast. As soon the New Dojo gets very active, and if the Felbeast are still a group, the need for group discussion is inevitably. I'm not angry of LP's limitationsof on User Boards, just want to know where the Felbeasts can talk privately. (I feel odd saying this, for someone who doesn't post often.)

Also, when we move to the new forum, what will become of threads like The Containment, The War Begins, and Cave Slickers: The Legend of Holly-Eyes Gold? Will they continue off in the new forum or get forgotten?

And for advertising? That is one thing I know will fail at. The only people who were slightly interested have in the past made an account. Jennifer12838, either an account my brother made and we forgot or just his character sheet, Dark Donkey, and Dunefang. You see, few people where I live even like to write RPs. Sure, I might get someone's interests perked up to read something here. However, that's mostly it.

Edit: Cheers to the quick-draw who removed huynh_192265 disgraceful threads! And I wonder why he did it in the first place? Rudeness for the sake to be rude?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, CP, darling, you don't want to become a cute, fluffy little plush toy, do you? I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about, sweetheart. Just remember, I have over 2000 plushes, I wouldn't mind one more.<3



I'm actually not too sure exactly what that means!

But thanks for the heart!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now feel incredibly dumb as I read this thread when first posted, nodded happily and promptly wandered off.

A brief toss of a couple of coppers: Taking it back to basics sounds like a good idea to me. That way, if somebody gets confused and asks 'What does this do?' or 'How does that work?', we aren't trawling through masses of boards and threads trying to find something that may not even be relevant any more.

That, and there's less things for the newcomers to stop and say 'What's that for?' about, so I guess that makes things more efficient too.

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