Just A Few Words

Swix · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:00 am Post subject:

I agree with Somefreakoverthere, you should just leave us alone. You seem to be oblivious to the fact you are hurting people's feelings here.

*Pats SFOT comfortingly*

Mr. Paige

Danikat · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:56 am Post subject:

So in other words if we don't shut the forum down you'll flood it with spammers?

I'm not sure if you're awear of this but the admins on any forum, including this one, are capable of banning people, even banning their IP addresses, to stop them having access to a forum.

If you and your friends start spamming and flaming our forum thats all that will happen. You'll be banned for breaking the rules and our lives will go on as before.

You really need to think of something more effective.

EnDSchultz · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:43 am Post subject:

Indeed, Danikat, I was about to say that until I found you did it for me! If you parents are so angry with the effect this place is (allegedly) having on your kids, just block our website so your child can't come here. Problem solved.

So if we don't close down than you'll spam us? This particular message board is new. But please, I've been in this community for over five years. I joined around the time I was 10. I STARTED the Evil Council at that age, and I should mention I haven't killed or maimed anyone, if you'd like to know.

I've seen spamming, hacking, constant rulebreaking, massive-scale disputes, and downright mean, dispicable people on our forums, and we've always pulled through, given the perpetrator his punishment, repaired the damage done, and moved on. A couple of outraged parents spamming their displeasure is nothing I would be concerned about.

Now leave us alone!!

Mag · Yellow Belt Old Friend Evil Council Member Posts: 61

3kul · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:18 am Post subject:

Sorry to sound like the negative one in the bunch, but can we all please just try to be a little more realistic? Saying "who cares, we'll pull through", "we can just ban you and delete your posts" and other stuff like that is all good and well, but you seem to be forgetting that somebody actually has to do all that work. Most of us have lives outside of these forums, and I seriously doubt that anybody would want to spend hours of their day trawling through topics for spam threads and posts, sorting new parent users from regular ones and fixing up the newly reported posts.

Now to explain one thing that's been bugging me. The offer that currently stands is not shutting down the entire forum as the last few of you somehow thought, it is that:

Danikat · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:40 am Post subject:

I'm not sure about this version but I know several forums allow admins to just delete all the post by one person. That would save the time taken to deal with the problem they're threatening.

But that was intended to be an extreme example, making the point that ultimately they can't force us to do anything. The best they can do is to persuade us to accept a compromise.

Personally I don't see that deleting the archives would do any good, those are all RP's that happened in the past. It seems to be our current activities that are the problem here. But if that will make Mr. Page & friends happy then I suppose we could work something out.

Saving the Archives somewhere out of the public view for example.

EnDSchultz · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:47 am Post subject:

Somefreakoverthere · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject:

hmm.Alot of the things in the archives are creatures related,so why not store it all in the norn gardens?

Sorry for my outburst earlier,i've just had a hard day and i just snapped,And that weird feeling in my gut really isn't helping my temper.So like one of my friends here,i'm stepping out of this topic and leaving it to those who might get us somewhere.

I,for one,would not want Conserned Parents cloting up the wilds and everywhere else,as it would more than likely just make me suffer from even more stress.

Panther385 · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:

You'd have to make every single roleplaying-user on this board an admin and have them put in six hours of work to get rid of what the parents may cause.... It would certainly be a daunting task.

And if I may ask, what is wrong with violence? There's sin in the world, and you should know that. You can't censor yourself forever.

GBE · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject:

Again, I find myself drawn to this 'greetings' thread. I for one am not afraid of a few over thirty year olds who have nothing better to do than to upset several children and teens who are attempting to have fun.

You can threaten us with whatever you like, but I would like to back Father Mac in his request for police action against Mr. Paige, and quite possibly have investigations into these other 'Concerned Parents' in case of child abuse.

I for one, would happily delete posts by arrogant, rude people. But I will not tolerate threats, I will not tolerate intimidation, and I will not tolerate either of you parents!

In fact, why don't you post a link to this, 'Concerned Parents' website, if in fact it actually exists?!

GBE

Leporidae · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject:

The following text is ment to be read by the supporting comrades of the Blackstar Dojo. I wish for all angry parent's to stay out of this post and coninues on down, lest we take our flamethrowers and turn it on full power.

As you can see, we are in the mists of a delimea. These rather abusive parents are trying to twist things for us. Let me explain, they clearly blackmailed us in other words something like this, as you know:

"We are going to get our tourches and pitchforks and spam and flame your thread to timbukto. Unless, of course, you give in to us by closing down any and all places on your message board that have to do with RolePlaying."

It's a loose-loose. Although, one is less devasting as the other. Can you guess witch one?

I have a plan. We don't do anything, open the gates and unleash the allies of the three little trolls, and ignore them! Now matter how much they intrude the threads, we pretend we arn't there, and continue with are much beloved buisness. It's just lke roleplaying, we should be perfectly able to belive their thin as air. I'm ashamed, ashamed at anyone and everyone who interfeird. I blame myself for getting into this mess myself even! It's too late to go back and stop ourselfs now, we have to start anew instead. So I ask of you to walk through these imbeciles and interact with your more friendlier peers!

Ignoring is not simple, though. It requires strength, courage, and well-knowing. We have to do this as a WHOLE if we wan't this plan to work. Although it will be tough and hard, and we all do it together, it will show the web of our true spirit and colors as a comunity. Now, the ingrediants are as follows:

*Don't respond to their posts in anyway. Whenever it's a little comment you wan't to make about something they said or a giant flame that takes all of your frustration out on them, don't. It will encourages them. No, what am I saying, it FUELS them!

*Don't post anything about them anyway, even is they arn't there. When ever it's through IM, PMs, or in anouther thread, they just might see it later. Even if they couldn't see it, talking about it with other players might encourage them to talk to others about them. Complaining that something they said to a admin or mod is a acception. Just make sure that neather you don't try to fix it yourself. Anouther exception is telling someone unaware of it that they should ignore them.

*You may look at the posts. Yes, it's perfectly ok to read what they say. But, your not allowed to interact with it in anyway, as I said before.

I'm going to start right now. I'm putting my foot down, swear by my word you will only see me dead posting here again. No longer am I going to talk to the annoying parents. No longer will I worry! I shall now release the stress I twined together within the beat of my ever-swallowing lungs and never look back! I suggest you do the same, regrow the hair you torn off and don't make the same mistake again.

3kul · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:06 am Post subject:

Forget it, there's no way I or many other Dojo members would just sit by and watch the place get spammed to hell. If a parent chose to single me out or say something that I don't like, I'd most likely post back. Also, could we please not discuss strategies such as hiding the archives so openly? Surely common sense would tell you to suggest these things privately, or at least in an area in which regular users can't access. But whatever, it's been said now, so there's not much that can be done.

And to those of you who are doubting the parents numbers, whilst I have no idea as to whether or not they're from a particular website or group, it seems that either Paige or Jenson (possibly both) have been so kind as to pass my e-mail address around, and from the various e-mails I've gotten in the past couple of days there's quite a few. I don't really bother with them anymore (after the first few it gets a little repetitive), but just so everyone knows, if you're looking to contact me via e-mail, don't, because I probably won't find your message amongst the parental crap. If you need to tell me something, just do it by PM.

addman · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:13 am Post subject:

Mr Paige, Mr Jenson, Mrs Ward, I address you all, and all of your other comrades who seek to single out a single internet community over something so petty as this.

BRING IT ON!

Seriously, you'd be surprised with the amount that this community has been through. We will stand tall against your tiresome tirade. We will ban you all, even if there are thousands of you. We shall continue this forum in the way WE see fit, not YOU!

I'm sick to the back teeth of this debate, so I say do your worst, you pathetic bunch of single minded miscreants! Yes, that's right! YOU are the trouble makers, not us. YOU started this flame war, not us. YOU lack the common sense to raise your kids, not us. Don't come here declaring that we're corrupting your youth when there's websites devoted to pornography, terrorism, violence, foul language, and just about every perversion you can name, NONE of which you can find at Blackstar. You should start with those places before you start here.

If you want a war, then so be it. I am personally prepared to delete every post you make and ban you all, and I'm sure DP and Embri will too! You shall NEVER bring us down! VIVA LA BLACKSTAR!

Swix · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:20 am Post subject:

If you truly think deleting the Archives would solve this problem, 3kul, it might be the right thing to do. IF they leave us alone. However just in case:

VIVA LA BLACKSTAR!

*Hands out signs and Viva La Blackstar t-shirts*

We shall not, we shall not be moved. We shall not, we shall not be moved!

3kul · Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:59 am Post subject:

Well I think that getting rid of the Archives is going to do a lot more than screaming taunts at the parents, that's for sure. Confused

So that's what I've decided to do. Perhaps some of you feel up to the stress and constant chaos that a large group of angry parents would bring, but I certainly do not. The only kind of fighting I like is in an RP context, flaming and spamming really do not interest me in the slightest, and from my own point of view it's not a problem that can be solved by a mystical somebody just snapping their fingers. The Archives are now being deleted in the hopes that this will acheive peace.

This is all I can do, and as it's all you parents required to negotiate some kind of arrangement in which you and your ilk do not swarm the Dojo then it should be more than enough. So please, for the love of God, stop e-mailing me.